Showing posts with label Surrogacy In Hyderabad. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Surrogacy In Hyderabad. Show all posts

Thursday, 16 July 2020

surrogacy twins at KIC

Posted by Dr.Samit Sekhar on 00:57


Congratulations to Mrs and Mr.SSV from Hyderabad on the birth of their Twins a Boy and a Girl with the help of KIC'S IVF and Surrogacy program. Both babies are healthy and doing well.
Start your family today, avail fertility treatments at:: https://kiranivfgenetic.com/
#twins #boy #girl #surrogacy #surrogacytwins #surrogacybabies #happymoments #infertility #infertilitytreatment #infertilityawareness #surrogacy #kichyderabad #surrogacyindia #surrogacylawsindia #ivfinindia #eggdonorsurrogacy #surrogacyhyderabad


Friday, 10 July 2020

The Female Fertility Age Chart

Posted by Dr.Samit Sekhar on 23:55


Age is one of the major factors for being able to have a baby.
 At Kiran Infertility centre we  advise trying to start your family in your 20s or early thirties in order to ensure a healthy pregnancy and hassle free delivery. Unfortunately, your
circumstances might not be conducive always. Do not wait too long though.

Try to go through the female fertility age chart in order to figure your chances. Here are some basic facts. Do check them out...

1) At age 20, a healthy woman has 25% possibility of becoming pregnant each month
2) At age 30, a healthy woman has 20% possibility of becoming pregnant each month
3) At age 35, a healthy woman has 15% possibility of becoming pregnant each month
4) At age 40, a healthy woman has 5% possibility of becoming pregnant each month

Do not fret though! Feel free to visit KIC, Bengaluru and consult with a fertility expert for the right
solution. You are free to visit https://kicbengaluru.com/assisted-reproductive-technology-in-bangalore/
and learn about the treatment procedures available for you.

#fertility #infertility #agerelatedinfertility #IVF #ART #infertilityawareness #infertilitytreatment #femaleinfertility #kicbengaluru

Thursday, 9 July 2020

What Are the Chances of Getting Pregnant After 40?

Posted by Dr.Samit Sekhar on 00:34




The best time to become pregnant is in your late twenties and early thirties
However, more and more women are opting for late marriages today but manage to conceive despite the odds
40 is no longer deemed to be too late for becoming a mother.

The facts vary though. There are many instances of females being successfully pregnant in their early 40s.

However quite a few women in their forties find it difficult to become pregnant naturally
In such a scenario waiting for too long might be counter productive.  You can certainly use the help of fertility experts should you wish to have a baby post 40. Visit any of the Kiran infertility centre branches in Hyderabad,Chennai or Bengaluru by checking https://kicbengaluru.com/ for appointment information. You may be advised to go for a:-

1) IVF
2) IUI
3) Surrogacy

Success rates are as high as 70 to 80% cumulative with help of Assisted reproduction

#IVF #IUI #surrogacy #femaleinfertility #maleinfertility #infertilitytreatment #infertilityawareness #infertility #kicbengaluru





Dr. Samit Sekhar.
Owner and Director. 
M.B.B.S.
Master’s in Andrology and Men’s Health(Australia) 
Kiran  Group.
Fertility/Obstetrics/Gynaecology/Genetics/Skin& Aesthetics/Dentistry.
Hyderabad/Bengaluru/Dubai/Ukraine
Mobile +91-994-817-5768   
Web:  www.kiranivfgenetic.com
The preferred destination for Fertility Treatments.  
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Tuesday, 23 June 2020

Endometriosis and its treatment

Posted by Dr.Samit Sekhar on 00:37
Surrogacy in India
How to overcome infertility caused by endometriosis?

Infertility is a common occurrence when you have been diagnosed with endometriosis. The fertility doctor would make sure to rule out this condition when you visit them after being unable to conceive naturally for one year.

However, a few women may be able to get pregnant naturally even with endometriosis although the instances are rare. Doctors at KIC, Bengaluru will examine you carefully to note the adhesions causing blockage thus hampering fertilization.

The fallopian tube may also be damaged due to endometriosis while your egg quality may decline as well. Check out to learn more about how health conditions including endometriosis can prevent you from getting pregnant.

No worries! You can still conceive by trying out any of the following procedures.

1) IVF
2) IUI
3) Other ART procedures

#pregnancy # endometriosis #infertility #IVF #ART #IUI #infertilityawareness #infertilitytreatment #kicbengaluru


Tuesday, 16 June 2020

Do the the chances of a second natural pregnancy increase after a succesful IVF pregnancy?

Posted by Dr.Samit Sekhar on 00:11


Fertility doctors recommend their patients to try IVF when they are unable to conceive naturally after years of trying. While there might be several underlying factors causing infertility, doctors remain perplexed by cases where no specific cause can be diagnosed for infertility.

Strangely, medical science has found evidence of patients who had success with IVF becoming pregnant for the second time naturally.

Couples who have adopted out of desperation have experienced such miracles too. There is no hard core research to substantiate the facts, however. Do check out the following facts before contacting your doctor at KIC, Bengaluru (https://kicbengaluru.com/)

1) A study conducted in UK revealed that 29% of women who underwent the treatment could conceive naturally after 6 years
2) 17% couples who found success with other treatments could conceive the second child without assistance

Doctors say that their patients are not sterile but infertile and being treated for a medical condition helped them to recover fully.


#IVF #infertility #pregnancy #infertilitytreatment #infertilityawareness #ivftreatment #kicbengaluru



Dr. Samit Sekhar.
Owner and Director. 
M.B.B.S.
Master’s in Andrology and Men’s Health(Australia) 
Kiran  Group.
Fertility/Obstetrics/Gynaecology/Genetics/Skin& Aesthetics/Dentistry.
Hyderabad/Bengaluru/Dubai/Ukraine
Mobile +91-994-817-5768   
Web:  www.kiranivfgenetic.com
The preferred destination for Fertility Treatments.  
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Thursday, 28 May 2020

Does being over or under weight cause infertility?

Posted by Dr.Samit Sekhar on 00:25


Does being over or under weight cause infertility?

Fertility specialist  usually recommend their patients to lose or put on weight before trying to conceive. This is true of both men and women. Fertility experts at https://kicbengaluru.com advise their patients to do the following in order to increase their chances of becoming pregnant naturally.

1) A body mass index or BMI below 19 will make you underweight and might make it difficult to  conceive and carry a pregnancy to term due to lack of proper macro and micro nutrients in your system
2) A BMI of above 30 would make you obese wherein you might experience difficulty to conceive and if you conceive will put you at a higher risk of developing pregnancy induced complications such as Diabetes, hypertension and even increase the risk of miscarriage.
3) You may stop having regular menstrual cycles when your BMI goes down to 18.5 or even less. This will interfere with ovulation and pregnancy
5) Statistics have also revealed that children of obese mothers may face difficulties post birth
6) Low sperm count and abnormal motility have been discovered in a number of overweight men who tend to be infertile with altered testosterone levels


#infertility #BMI #obesity #weight #infertilitytreatment #infertilityawareness #kicbengaluru

Tuesday, 26 May 2020

In Vitro fertilisation and its benefits

Posted by Dr.Samit Sekhar on 01:01
Kiran IVF Genetic :
Date : 26-05-2020


What are the Nine Benefits of IVF?

The term IVF stands for In Vitro Fertilization and is one of the most popular Assisted Reproductive Technology (ART) being used to treat infertility. The IVF treatment involves stimulating the ovaries resulting in release of ovum (egg) which is collected through ovum aspiration and fertilized artificially in the laboratory with the help of the sperm. The embryo thus fertilized is transferred back to uterus where it develops and grows naturally into a baby.

The benefits of IVF especially the nine benefits as stated by eminent fertility experts of Kiran Infertility Centre or KIC include-
1)      The high success rate of IVF and it has become much safer.

2)      IVF reduces the chances of surgery on fallopian tubes
3)      It allows to women with low ovarian reserve or  premature menopause to be able to bear a child
4)      IVF increases the chances of pregnancy by a large percentage
5)      Couples who are completely infertile can become parents with donor eggs or sperms
6)      IVF provides the opportunity to choose healthiest embryos before implanting it back to uterus.
7)      Couples with repeated miscarriage can successfully opt for IVF treatment.
8)      Women with damaged/blocked fallopian tubes can  benefit through IVF treatment.
        9)    once can opt for Surrogacy as a last resort in case of unsuccesful IVF
For more information on IVF – visit https://kiranivfgenetic.com and you can call on the numbers: 9908392452 for any queries.

#ivf #iui #pcod #icsi #infertility #maleinfertility #femaleinfertility #infertilitytreatment #kichyderabad #surrogacy #surrogacyindia #surrogacylawsindia #ivfinindia #eggdonorsurrogacy #surrogacyhyderabad


Dr. Samit Sekhar.
Owner and Director. 
M.B.B.S.
Master’s in Andrology and Men’s Health(Australia) 
Kiran  Group.
Fertility/Obstetrics/Gynaecology/Genetics/Skin& Aesthetics/Dentistry.
Hyderabad/Bengaluru/Dubai/Ukraine
Mobile +91-994-817-5768   
Web:  www.kiranivfgenetic.com
The preferred destination for Fertility Treatments.  
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Sunday, 10 May 2020

Surrogacy Success.

Posted by Dr.Samit Sekhar on 22:58
we are very happy and hearty Congratulations to Mrs and Mr PB On the birth of their Twin Boys. 
Both healthy and doing well with the help of kic's Ivf and surrogacy program.
To know more about and to avail this treatment visit: https://kiranivfgenetic.com/

#boys #surrogacy #happymoments #infertility #infertilitytreatment #infertilityawareness #surrogacy #kichyderabad


Friday, 8 May 2020

Male Infertility Causes and Treatment options

Posted by Dr.Samit Sekhar on 23:28
Male infertility constitutes 40 percent of the infertility cases around the world.
Male infertility is mainly attributed to factors such as low sperm production, abnormal sperm function or blockages that prevent the delivery of sperm.
illnesses, injuries, chronic health problems, lifestyle choices and other factors have a role to play in causes of male infertility factors.
At Kiran Infertility Centre we offer the We offer the latest and scientific solutions for male infertility issues with our team of expert Andrologists,Embryologists and Fertility consultants to help you father a child.



Wednesday, 29 April 2020

Infertility Risk Factors

Posted by Dr Samit on 23:26
Infertility Risk factors for women

Millions of couples around the world find it difficult to get pregnant every year. at the Kiran Infertility centre we advise a number of treatments for both the male as well as the female partner depending on the root cause.

Sadly, there are certain risk factors associated with infertility too. Make sure to stay away from them as much as possible in order to conceive and bear a child naturally. Here are the things that you need to ensure:-

1) Try to get pregnant by mid 20s or at least early 30s to enhance your chances
2) Give up smoking or consuming tobacco products regularly. Heavy smokers run the risk of being infertile. This occurs for both males and females
3) Try to have an optimum weight. Both obesity and being underweight hampers the possibility of getting pregnant
4) Speak to a fertility expert at https://kicbengaluru.com/ to obtain more information.
5) Try and Avoid Stress 
#infertility #risks #pregnancy #infertilityawareness #infertilitytreatment #kicbengaluru

Dr. Samit Sekhar.
Owner and Director. 
M.B.B.S.
Master’s in Andrology and Men’s Health(Australia) 
Kiran  Group.
Fertility/Obstetrics/Gynaecology/Genetics/Skin& Aesthetics/Dentistry.
Hyderabad/Bengaluru/Dubai/Ukraine
Mobile +91-994-817-5768   
Web:  www.kiranivfgenetic.com
The preferred destination for Fertility Treatments.  
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Monday, 27 April 2020

when to opt for IVF

Posted by Dr.Samit Sekhar on 23:55


IVF becomes the best treatment option for people having the following problems. To know more about IVF treatment and to avail the best IVF treatments visit:
https://www.kiranivfgenetic.com/
Contact us: +91-9908392452
#ivf #ivftreatment #infertility #infertilitytreatment #maleinfertility #femaleinfertility #ttc #infertilityawareness #infertilityawareness #ivfspecialist #kichyderabad #surrogacy #surrogacyindia #surrogacylawsindia #ivfinindia #eggdonorsurrogacy #surrogacyhyderabad
Dr Samit Sekhar.

Owner and Director. 
M.B.B.S.
Master’s in Andrology and Men’s Health(Australia) 
Kiran  Group.
Fertility/Obstetrics/Gynaecology/Genetics/Skin& Aesthetics/Dentistry.
Hyderabad/Bengaluru/Dubai/Ukraine
Mobile +91-994-817-5768   
Web:  www.kiranivfgenetic.com
The preferred destination for Fertility Treatments.  
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Thursday, 9 April 2020

Types of Assisted Reproductive Treatments

Posted by Dr Samit on 23:35
Types of Assisted Reproductive Treatments

Assisted Reproductive Treatment known as ART is a collective term for various treatment procedures that are used to treat infertility and help couples to become parents. Some of the most common techniques used may include one or several of the following procedures.

1) Artificial insemination
2) Inducing Ovulation
3) Conception with the aid of a donor
4) In-Vitro Fertilization (IVF)
5) preimplantation genetic testing (PGT)
6) intracytoplasmic sperm injection (ICSI)

The fertility doctor would be able to examine you and discuss the method that you will need for pregnancy to follow. Be sure to visit https://kicbengaluru.com/assisted-reproductive-technology-in-bangalore/ if you want to go through the details of ART procedures

#fertility #infertility #maleinfertility #femaleinfertility #ART #ICSI #IVF #PGT #kichyderabad#kicbengaluru

Dr. Samit Sekhar.
Owner and Director. 
M.B.B.S.
Master’s in Andrology and Men’s Health(Australia) 
Kiran  Group.
Fertility/Obstetrics/Gynaecology/Genetics/Skin& Aesthetics/Dentistry.
Hyderabad/Bengaluru/Dubai/Ukraine
Mobile +91-994-817-5768   
Web:  www.kiranivfgenetic.com
The preferred destination for Fertility Treatments.  
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Monday, 24 February 2020

Posted by Dr.Samit Sekhar on 21:48
Hello Friends
hope you all are well

Motherhood is something that most women look forward to. The fertility issues of today are solved by and large by employing innovative technologies as well. 
IVF is definitely one of the most successful options to consider. However, the Ante natal care is similar to  a natural pregnancy after the embryo has been transplanted in the womb. You would have to be watchful if you notice any of the following issues and consult your specialist immediately

1) Too much vomiting that is causing dehydration symptoms to surface
2) Pain in the abdomen
3) Watery discharge from the vagina
4) Bleeding or spotting
5) Heavy feeling and bloating along with lethargy
6) No fetal movement noticed for a long time



Friday, 21 October 2016

baby girl through surrogacy for bengaluru couple

Posted by Dr Samit Sekhar on 02:23
Surrogacy in India.
Congratulations to Karthik and Anu on the birth of their Daughter, weighing 2.6 kilos she is healthy and doing well!!

 

Twin Boys!!

Posted by Dr Samit Sekhar on 02:11

Surrogacy in India.
Congratulations  to Kalyan from Australia on the birth of his twin boys
they were born a few days ago and are healthy and doing well!!

we wish them the very best!!

Friday, 9 September 2016

Posted by Dr Samit Sekhar on 02:18
Surrogacy in India.
Congratulations to Mrs and Mr.Chad Mc Clain from the USA on the birth of their Son- weighing 4.2 Kilos at the time of birth,he is by far the Biggest baby born to a surrogate mother at KIC!! Congratulations on the record little one!!

Saturday, 27 August 2016

How the Nationalistic BJP messed up the Surrogacy Regulation bill!!

Posted by Dr Samit Sekhar on 04:12
I must say i was not totally shocked when i read the news about the Surrogacy regulation bill 2016, i kind of was expecting the clauses wherein they would ban commercial surrogacy and allow only altruistic surrogacy because they had modelled the bill based on UK's HFEA-ACT which everyone knows is a big failure and shows that India has still not been able to rid itself of the tentacles of imperialism, now why they decided to copy the HFEA act instead of taking the views of the major players of the surrogacy Industry in India is anybody's guess!! 
Various rumours are floating around as to the actual reasons but no one knows for sure.
one of the main reasons i feel they have banned commercial surrogacy is because there was tremendous pressure on the Govt. of India to reopen surrogacy for foreigners which they had stopped in october 2015, because if they would allow it for Indians then why not for foreigners? so in a typical knee jerk reaction which we have now come to expect from our Leaders they decided to ban it rather than regulate it, they patted and tweeted themselves no end and congratulated each other for passing a bill which is nothing but 10 to 12 clauses because it has not been put in the public domain yet.
Before i dissect the provisions of the proposed bill and some of the statements made in public domain by Minister of External Affairs,i would like to inform  the public especially the Indian Intended Parents whose messages and queries i am gettting in droves that this is yet a bill which has been proposed and passed by the union cabinet of the current NDA government, as to the best of my knowledge and i am not a constitutional expert by any stretch of my imagination, this bill has to be put up for public discussion as it is different from the Previous ART bill-2015 and then before a parliamentary committee which will include members of the opposition parties followed by tabling and passing in the lower and upper houses of parliament,followed by signature of the president and publication in the official gazette.
if we check the track record of the present government in implementing important Bills and passing them in parliament and the most important bill they have passed is the GST bill-Goods and Services Tax- for which the time taken was about 2 years as the NDA came to power in 2014
if we keep in mind that Surrogacy is perhaps the least important of issues plaguing our Society then we can expect the same time frame or more which would be by 2018 or slightly more
however one can never say as to how Governments react in specific situations since they have political compulsions and gains in Mind.
so below are my personal views regarding the very very Amateur provisions of the surrogacy Bill 2016


 1.Broadly the Bill allows ‘altruistic surrogacy’ for married heterosexual couples. The others- Single,Unmarried,Gay,Live in couples must adopt and can't take recourse to surrogacy, i can understand the bit about Homo sexuals because Gay Relationships are not recognised by the Regressive Indian laws which were drafted by the British in the early 19th century, however Single Women can have a baby through IVF but not through Surrogacy, so a woman who is single but born without a uterus or has had her uterus removed is condemned to a life of Childlessness!! why? maybe the Government things it is her Bad karma!!

2. surrogacy would now be restricted to ‘childless couples, who are medically unfit to have children by taking help from a close relative- a process that they call ‘altruistic surrogacy’.however Altruistic surrogacy is where only reasonable expenses are paid towards the medical and surgical upkeep of the surrogate mother without paying any gift or cash directly to the surrogate mother.
however the Minister failed to address what happens if one does have ‘close’ relatives who were willing to help?
the Government probably things that it is again their bad karma and they be bereft of the joys of parenthood.

3.Altruistic surrogacy restricted to close relatives has been a failure worldwide maybe because a potential surrogate, closely related to the childless couple , may not be sure that she could cut off the emotionally from the baby immediately at birth.

 4.there is also a very high chance that in a patriarchal society like India, close relatives will be forced to act as surrogate mothers,that will be the real exploitation of women, the minister or the government does not seem to have taken this fact into consideration at all.
5.If the foetus is discovered to have a problem, what happens if the surrogate mother decides she does not want an abortion for religious or emotional reasons? Will the parents, who are compelled by law to ‘not abandon the child, born out of a surrogacy procedure, under any circumstances’, find themselves capable of taking care of the child? the MTP act clearly states the conditions in which a medical termination of pregnancy is allowed.

6.The surrogate mother, according to the bill, has to be a married woman with at least one child of her own and she should be a close relative. In the scenarios listed above, what happens to her own family? her own children?

7.who pays for the Delivery and hospital charges and paediatric charges?

8.Who pays for post-natal care? To what extent is the couple who want the baby responsible for it? What if the surrogate mother slips into post-natal complications or needs a hysterectomy and needs long term care? Who will take the responsibility?
the Government has not answered any of these things because they know that once this bill becomes a law no one will undergo a surrogacy procedure so they don't need to think about all these things at all.

9.What happens in case of breakdown of family relations?What then? 
and pray how will the Government monitor these surrogacy cases within the family? will they be deploying cctv camera's inside people's homes?

10.how will i as a practitioner verify if the surrogate mother is a close relative or not?
let’s move on to  the other insane and impractical things the bill says.
you have to be legally married for five years.So, if you’re married but only for 4 years and 11 months then wait-it's your bad karma!!
If you decide to focus on your carrier and marry late at say 35 which is not uncommon now a days wait until you turn 40 and your ovarian reserve declines and then you can no longer use your own eggs to have a baby!! you may think of using an egg donor but wait- the government says again egg donation can only come from a close relative, so if you are 40 and you dont have a sister then remain childless.
If you are a live-in couple, again not uncommon now a days- your bad karma!!
If you are an unmarried man or woman- your bad karma!!
If you are divorced or seperated- your bad karma!
If you have lost your husband/wife to death- your bad Karma!!
If you are a homosexual - you are anyways a criminal according to Indian laws!! criminals cant have babies!!!
If you have a biological child and want one more, -your bad karma!!
If you have adopted a child and want a biological one now- your bad karma!
If you are middle class and cannot go abroad for surrogacy- your bad karma
If you were born in India but now live abroad, or a now a citizen of a different country- your bad karma. You can’t ask your sister to help.
If you are a divorcee parent who has married a second time -- which means you have a child from your earlier marriage- your bad karma- Indian culture and Ethos which the minister repeatedly emphasised on encourages folks to stay in a bad marriage!!
The Surrogacy regulation  bill basically means the government has disqualified most of the citizens  from opting for ‘altruistic surrogacy’. It has decided to step into your bed room and tell you what to do with your lives and are taking control of what should have been a very private and personal journey, curtailed your freedom of choice and the Government will now decide who can have a child and who cant and our Judiciary -the champions of Liberty will sit back and watch!!
Of course- you are free to adopt!! Government needs to understand that adoption is a highly personal choice. Not everyone is emotionally evolved to be an adoptive parent and forcing those who don't wish to adopt will be the biggest exploitation of the parents and child!! 
Genuine folks who wish to adopt are harrassed by CARA and made to wait endlessly-sometimes even upto 5 years
‘Kitne hi itne udhaharan hamare saamne, aur badi celebrities ke hain, jinka apna bachcha ek nahi do-do hain, aur beta aur beti dono hai, toh bhi unhone surrogate child kiya hai. Toh yeh zaroorat ke liye toh hai anumati, shauk ke liye nahi hai. Aur na is liye hai ki kyonki patni prasav pida nahi sehna chahati, is liye chalo surrogate child kar lo. Yeh koi anand ki cheez nahi hai.’ 

This is what Mrs.Swaraj our esteemed and privileged Minister of External affairs said and she was implying about the Bollywood celebrities having a baby through surrogacy even after having two grown up children.
so the government does not want Mr.and Mrs.Money bags from having a baby through surrogacy,however she failed to understand that these cases even if true which i don't believe them to be true, constitute maybe 0.1% of the total surrogacy cases, the majority of people opting for surrogacy are middle class infertile couples who have no other recourse to have their own genetic baby.
with this bill in place,a shahrukh khan or an Aamir khan or any other rich person will not be stopped  from having a baby through surrogacy. If not in India, they can easily go to the USA and pay 2 crores and have a baby through surrogacy and you know what their baby will automatically get US citizenship as well!!
India may now be listed as the seventh richest country in the world, but the inescapable fact is that the per capita income is lesser than some of the african countries and still there are starvation deaths. Poor survive on grants by the government and less than 2 dollars per day. Surrogacy is empowerment for such women but the government does not want the poor to escape from their daily grind and hope for a better future for themselves and their Children!! If that happens how will they exploit them for votes!!
sadly the Government failed to meet or ask any surrogate mother for whom they so hurriedly passed this bill as to what their views are!! an RTI(Right to Information) Query was filed with the ICMR-Indian council of medical research which is the nodal body to monitor Fertility cli
nics as to how many complaints they had received regarding the exploitation of Surrogate mother? the predictable answer was -ZERO!!

Wednesday, 3 August 2016

Posted by Dr Samit Sekhar on 00:28
Surrogacy in India.
Hearty congratulations to Mrs and Mr.Kumar on the birth of their twin girls,both are healthy and doing well!!
we wish them the very best!!

Monday, 4 July 2016

surrogacy in canada- a thank you message.

Posted by Dr Samit Sekhar on 00:44


How are you and the family keeping?

Sorry we haven't written in awhile.... But not a day goes by that we don't think of you, the clinic and the blessings you have given us.

They are 15months and so much fun! They chat to each other in their language.  They both say a few words and understand what we are saying to them.  They are both walking, but Leroy Jr is also a climber!  On their Dr visits, they always come out as off the chart for height.  They are 2.9ft tall and only 15months :) Soon they will be taller than me :)

They love all things food.  They are big fans of rice and curry and don't mind eating spices.  They started swimming lessons.... And I have attached a few pics of them at my sister's place in their pool.

We miss Hyderabad.  We hope to see you and the family in Toronto someday. 



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